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Phyllis Alesia Perry was born in Atlanta and raised in Tuskegee, Alabama. She earned a degree in journalism from the University of Alabama and spent 16 years working for Southern newspapers as an editor and reporter. She was part of a writing and editing team at The Alabama Journal that won the Pulitzer Prize in 1988. She is the author of two novels, “Stigmata” and “A Sunday in June.”


S.i.S.:  Being a Pulitzer-Prize winning author is quite an accomplishment for your work as a journalist; however, did you always want to write fiction?  How difficult was it to transition to writing a novel? 

Perry:  It was really creative writing that came first. Writing fiction was a continuation of what I'd been doing from the time I was a child. So the real transition came when I decided, as a teenager, that I was going to pursue a journalism degree instead of one in English or creative writing. And my literary writing wasn't interrupted by my work for newspapers. I finished the first novel while working for The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.


S.i.S.:  How did you come up with the premise for "Stigmata"?  Tell us about the research you did to create such a realistic story with elements of the Middle Passage and the pre-Civil Rights era. 

Perry:  That's such a difficult question. There was no one moment when the story "came" to me. The characters, events, settings, etc., entered my consciousness at different times and in different ways. I didn't always know that those bits and pieces even went together. My work never comes to me as a whole. Essentially, though, stigmata and stigmatics are subjects that I've been interested in since I was in Catholic school (nine years!). The Catholic Church has many documented cases of stigmatics. These were always cases of people identifying with the crucified Christ to the point of manifesting his wounds. But I felt that for black people, that kind of horrific wounding could only be related to slavery.

I didn't do any research specifically for "Stigmata." I've always been a voracious reader, and I read about what interests me. I'm interested in stigmatics, so I read about stigmatics. I'm interested in the history of black people, so I read that. The historical record, from slave narratives, accounts of slave-ship captains, the stories of Jim Crow-era blacks, is graphic, gritty and pretty hard to forget. If you've read lots of stuff on these subjects, when the time comes, it's already in the database.


S.i.S.:  "A Sunday in June," your sophomore title, is the prequel to your first novel, "Stigmata".  Was it always your intention to write "A Sunday in June", or did you write it based on the response of your first novel?

Perry:  No, that's just how it worked out. I don't plan things that well. I don't like to plan too much; it's boring to me to know exactly what chapter I'm going to write next, or how it's going to go.

The germ of the story for "A Sunday in June" is actually older than "Stigmata" and was part of a novel that I started and abandoned before I wrote "Stigmata." I borrowed some character names from that first idea when I wrote "Stigmata," but I didn't know that the two stories were related until much later.

"A Sunday" definitely wasn't in response to "Stigmata." Everybody wanted me to write a sequel. Although I'm interested in taking the family into the future, I don't have a solid sense yet of what a sequel would have to say.


S.i.S.:  I'm also a native of Alabama; I'm curious to know if Johnson's Creek was based on a particular place you've lived or visited in Alabama?

Perry:  I'm actually a native of Atlanta, but since I spent most of my childhood and youth in Alabama, that's the place I identify with the most. Johnson Creek is based on the rural community that my mother's family is from; it was the first place I remember as a child, where I was baptized, and where my family still owns property.


S.i.S.:  There was a scene in "A Sunday in June" where Mary Nell experiences her husband's rape of her sister.  Very vivid and passionately written.  How do you write such depictions and how difficult was it to describe such a horrific scene?

Perry:  I don't know how I write them. I can't not write them. But those kinds of scenes are really wrenching to get down. There were times when the whole life of the book was in jeopardy because I couldn't get through those scenes. I wrote around that part for years! People were saying, "what's taking so long?" But I couldn't tell them that there was just this hole in the middle of the book! I knew what had to go there, but it was difficult. Then when I did get to it, I inched my way through. I had the same kind of difficulty with some of the scenes in "Stigmata," especially the ones concerning the Middle Passage.


S.i.S.:  You have been compared to such contemporary writers as Tanarive Due and Octavia Butler.  How do you receive the comparison?  Who would you compare your work to?

Perry:  Having writers like Butler and Due out there is like a dream come true. That's what I was yearning for when I was a kid reading science fiction and speculative fiction by white guys -- a place for us in those imaginative, innovative scenarios. It's always great to be mentioned in the same sentence with other great writers, especially black women writers; it makes me feel like part of a writing community. I don't think we write that much alike, though. We're all taking speculative fiction and doing something different with it, and that's a good thing.


S.i.S.:  "Stigmata" was first published by Ullstein in Germany and then by Hyperion Books, how did that come about?  How difficult was it for you to become a published author?

Perry:  "Stigmata" was sold to Hyperion first, then to Ullstein in Germany. But Ullstein decided to put the book on their spring 1998 list and Hyperion wanted it for the fall. The Germans liked the first draft and went ahead with publication. I was still in the revision process with my U.S. editor as the German translation was being done! That's why the ending to "Stigmata" is different in the German version than in subsequent versions.

I had the help of a literary agent, so he did all the real sweating when it came to getting it in the hands of editors. There were some rejections, but you know with that first book, you're just glad someone is looking at it at all. I met the agent through another writer. He worked with an agent overseas in Sweden to present the book to the European market.


S.i.S.:   You've also been published in Great Britain, the Netherlands and Spain. How different is the international market from the market here in the U.S.?

Perry: I can't tell that the international market is that much different than the U.S. Ullstein seemed more excited about the book that U.S. publishers did and they signed me for two books ("A Sunday in June" should be coming out in Germany sometime in the next year). In Spain they changed the title for some reason. In Great Britain, they dropped my middle name because they said it was too much of a mouthful. Quirky things like that. I'm pretty far removed from the process overseas, though.


S.i.S.: Would you like to give us insight into your next project? Any plans for a signing tour?  Where will you be promoting your book next?

Perry:  I've pretty much wrapped up publicity for "A Sunday in June."  I will be at the Atlanta Book Festival on Sept. 10 (6 p.m., at the Auburn Avenue Library). I may hit the road again after the soft cover comes out in February. I'm working (slowly, as is my habit) on another project. No, it's not the sequel to "Stigmata." ;-)


S.i.S.:  Any words of wisdom for new up and coming authors?

Perry:  We're lucky in that there are more publishing opportunities than ever before. There's also more bad writing out there than ever before. My advice is pretty standard. Read, of course. And ... oh, yeah ... READ. All the time. Every day. Newspapers, fiction, nonfiction, poetry (which can teach you a lot about conveying complicated ideas succinctly), essays, histories. Everything. Treat writing as seriously as you would any other profession. All writers benefit from imagination and inspiration, but that doesn't take the place of plain old work. Learn how to edit and revise, and don't be afraid to ruthlessly cut out anything that doesn't work.

Don't fall prey to the idea that you need big blocks of time to write (it's the reading that takes up most of your time). You don't. Snatch your writing time when you can and guard it fiercely.

Don't go looking for an agent unless you have something for the agent to read. Telling someone about the book you're thinking about writing is of no use to anyone.

It's also a good idea to become acquainted with the writing universe, which means attending book events, conferences, workshops, etc. That way, when your masterpiece is ready, you may have some useful friends who might want to read it.

Thank you for your thoughtful questions.


S.i.S.:  On behalf of Sisters in Spirit BookClub Magazine, I'd like to wish you much continued success in the future!!

--In Sisterhood!!

**Tiffany**

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